Disasters Podcast

‘Wildfire diaries’ and radical change in communications

In this episode, we talk with humanitarian communicator Kathy Mueller who produced our first magazine podcast series, The Wildfire Diaries, about massive wildfires in Northern Canada in 2017. We talk about that series, her many international missions, and the big changes in humanitarian communications since she began with the Canadian Red Cross almost 20 years ago.

Terry Denault walks through a forest of charred trees, their trunks blackened from the flames of the infamous Elephant Hill Fire, one of many massive wildfires that ravaged northwestern Canada in the summer of 2017.

“We had a hunting cabin here,” says Denault, pointing to clearing among the skeletal tree trunks. “And we had a fishing cabin right here … There’s nothing left of it. It’s sad, very sad to see this.”

Within the Skeetchestn Indian Band, part of the Secwepemc Nation (one of the indigenous first nations situated in northwestern Canada), Denault is known as a ‘cultural knowledge-keeper’ who is passing down knowledge about hunting, fishing, forest plants and medicines, music, art and language to younger members of the band.

Walking alongside Denault is Katherine Mueller, who is also recording Denault as part of RCRC magazine’s first-ever podcast series, The Wildfire Diaries. Published in 2018, the series documented how massive wildfires the year before choked local communities, both literally and figuratively, and severely disrupted the economy and culture of the entire region.

It was a case study in showing how climate change altered the ecological balance that sustained human communities in the area for generations.

Now, five years later, the magazine has decided to interview Mueller as part of the magazine’s last podcast series, which commemorates the magazine’s near 40 year history of storytelling. We talk to Mueller about producing  the Wildfire Diaries and what she learned about local efforts to thrive culturally despite the challenges posed by climate change.

We also talk about her many international humanitarian missions, including her reporting for the magazine about the 2014-15 Ebola Virus Disease outbreak in West Africa and the many changes in humanitarian communications since she began with the Canadian Red Cross almost 20 years ago.

“The biggest change is clearly social media,” she says in the interview. “When I first went to Indonesia, [after the 2005 Tsunami], I was just getting into Facebook at the time. It was so new and there wasn’t that feeling of, ‘We have to be pushing stories out every every day, or a few times every day as is now in the case with Twitter [now X]. That immediacy wasn’t there.”

“Over time, social media has really become a key source of information. The information definitely more immediately and it’s available globally. The downside of that is that there’s a lot of misinformation, a lot of disinformation. And that continues to increase, and especially at the onset of an emergency response. It’s such a chaotic environment.”

Despite the revolution in communications, Mueller says there are some fundamentals that have not changed.  “The thing that has stayed the same is the need to be able to be there on the ground to tell the stories,” she notes. “It’s vital that communications experts are there and that that they’re meeting with the people who have been impacted by the tsunami, the floods or the drought so they can get the story directly from them.”

Only in this way can humanitarian communicators be sure they are telling an accurate story, but also so the affected communities and the people who hope to support them can trust the stories they are being told, she says.


What happens when machines can decide who to kill?

It’s the stuff of science fiction: machines that make decisions about who and when to kill. Referred to as “autonomous weapons”, they’re already in use to some degree. But as more sophisticated systems are being developed we wanted to an expert in the field about whether such systems comply with international humanitarian law and what it means for humanity to give machines the power over human life and death.

The power of storytelling

In this episode, we talk about the power of storytelling to inform and inspire. “Storytelling is a fundamental aspect of human communication,” says our guest Prodip, a volunteer and multi-media storyteller for the Bangladesh Red Crescent. “It inspires us to be a hero of our own community.” We also speak with one such community hero, Dalal al-Taji, a longtime volunteer and advocate for inclusion of people with disabilities in emergencies response. “In disasters. persons with disabilities sometimes get forgotten.”

The brave new world of ‘Tech-plomacy’

Digital information technology holds tremendous potential for easing human suffering. But it also poses many risks. In countries impacted by conflict, for example, those risks can be a matter of life and death. Humanitarian ‘tech-plomat’ Philippe Stoll decodes plusses and minuses of the humanitarian tech revolution.

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